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Post by Pete Tyjas on Mar 5, 2016 9:08:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 12:37:56 GMT
Worth pointing out that the PDF for older rods changes every year as new lines are brought out and current rods become older rods. I have lists saved from 2013, 14 and 15 and they are all mention different rods and different lines. Obviously only really anal people like me do this, so if you are interested and have a rod that isn't listed it might be on one of the older lists. There is also an Airflo equivalent, but this covers only a small % of rods:- www.airflofishing.com/airflo_us_downloads/Airflo_Spey_Compatibility_Chart.pdf |
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Post by robmason on Apr 7, 2016 7:27:44 GMT
I thought I would be "OK" with a snowbee rod and matched line. My new "switch" outfit however doesn't inspire. I have the diamond 2 8 weight rod and a 7/8 switch line. Using various polyleaders of different lengths and densities and by adjusting the position of the start of the head relative to the rod tip, I was still not happy I had found the correct loading point. Maybe my "sustained anchor" casting is to pot??
I rang Snowbee and spoke to a very helpful guy. Seems he was happy I had the right kit in my hands. To me it feels like I need a heavier line. I might experiment with others but that can be an expensive business!
Rob
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 8:47:38 GMT
I have heard this a lot with the Snowbee rods/lines. I think their lines are quite light so that they overhead cast and supposedly spey cast too. I am not familiar with either rod or line first hand.
Out of interest weigh the head section of the line (I think they have integrated running line do they not?) - if it weighs less than 26 grams then that might be a problem.
Also some of these switch lines have weird tapers and weight distribution. I have an Airflo Skagit Switch in 510gr, which is 33g and you would be welcome to borrow that and see if this heavier head and different taper help.
I think 33g will be TOO heavy but at least you will feel if there is potential in further experimentation or if in fact as you suggest, it might be your technique needs work.
If it's any consolation, my sustained anchor casting is proving appalling so far this year and I have reverted back to longer heads for my switch rod to stop myself flogging the apparently dead horse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 8:51:00 GMT
Actually Rob - looking at the Airflo chart from my above post, the older Snowbee Prestige Switch rods are recommended to be used with a 510 gr Skagit Switch, so you never know.
Also further to my last post - I would have thought that there is no real reason you need to confine yourself to a sustained anchor cast if the line is a full floater. I have been using skagit profile lines with heavy sinking tips and biggish flies on my switch rod, so sustained anchors are the easiest (supposedly) and safest casts to use. If your line is a full floater then there would be no undue pressure on the rod if single speys and snakes were employed, but I guess the profile might not be the best for them. Try, as I say I know nowt about the Snowbee kit.
If you want to give my Airflo SS line a throw then we will match it up with a 7.5ft fl/2.5ft T8 MOW tip, but the profile is still pretty severe - I haven't tried it with airborne anchor casts.
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Post by billyfish on Apr 7, 2016 10:32:12 GMT
I bought the Prestige switch, on offer ,and the"matching" switch line. Very disappointed. The rod is well made with a lovely finish but the line doesn't really want to go. I will try some heavier lines when I have time including a Rio skagits flight 450 gm with a 10' light mow tip which you would think too heavy for a 6 weight rod.
Colin.
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Post by robmason on Apr 7, 2016 10:54:04 GMT
Thanks for that Mark and Colin. May not be just me then! I will follow your advice Mark and weigh the head- yes its got integrated running line.
Rob
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Post by Andrew Pieterse on Apr 7, 2016 18:56:43 GMT
Bought a Greys GR50 6/7 switch and Barrio switch line, had a few practice casts and am loving the feeling of it. Can't wait for the opportunity to put it to use, but that will probably well be for ST at night, which could be interesting. My 1st Barrio purchase, I can see what the fuss is about ...
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Post by boisker on Apr 7, 2016 19:07:28 GMT
Hey Andrew.... Not a salmon post.... But I bought my first Barrio line, small stream in a 3w... A couple of weeks ago.... Like you very impressed, no obvious memory, floats well and as you'd expect works really well close in with little line out... A bargain at under £30....
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Post by halfstoned on Apr 7, 2016 20:47:28 GMT
Not wishing to hijack post but just to say boisker, had my small stream for three seasons now and quite simply the best short range dry fly line I've ever used. Looking slightly used but wf3 out of stock at the moment. Wouldn't replace with anything else so I'll just have to wait.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 21:17:44 GMT
I am going to get a Barrio 7/8 Switch line I think. I've heard nothing but good things.
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Post by robmason on Apr 16, 2016 17:17:55 GMT
Actually Rob - looking at the Airflo chart from my above post, the older Snowbee Prestige Switch rods are recommended to be used with a 510 gr Skagit Switch, so you never know. Also further to my last post - I would have thought that there is no real reason you need to confine yourself to a sustained anchor cast if the line is a full floater. I have been using skagit profile lines with heavy sinking tips and biggish flies on my switch rod, so sustained anchors are the easiest (supposedly) and safest casts to use. If your line is a full floater then there would be no undue pressure on the rod if single speys and snakes were employed, but I guess the profile might not be the best for them. Try, as I say I know nowt about the Snowbee kit. If you want to give my Airflo SS line a throw then we will match it up with a 7.5ft fl/2.5ft T8 MOW tip, but the profile is still pretty severe - I haven't tried it with airborne anchor casts. [/Well I weighed the head today- 24g. Seems very light and rated for overhead I guess. I am basically wanting the outfit as a short double handed. I may well go for a Skagit possibly the Rage. Rob |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 19:10:42 GMT
Way too light and defo meant as a line which can be spey cast OR overhead cast, but in fact isn't suited to either very well. A jack of both trades and master of neither. To be effective a modern tapered line that spey casts well simply cannot be o/head cast well (passably, but not well). Having said that, an old fashioned double taper with a line rating a couple higher than the rod would do both ok.
The Rage is great, but the Barrio may have the edge if you just want to fish one line as it has the integrated running line. As I have said before, not tried the latter but am considering getting one. I would only ever use a switch rod as a small double hander.
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Post by robmason on Apr 16, 2016 19:29:40 GMT
The Barrio lines certainly have a good reputation. I may well go for one too.
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Post by robmason on May 12, 2016 19:36:29 GMT
A quick update.
I came across a Snowbee switch line on eBay going cheap that was rated 8/9-450 grains. I set up my 2 switch rods and found the heavier line worked much better on both the Snowbee 8 and Shakey 7/8. Interestingly I found the lighter line not too bad today, but this was casting on the open water of Roadford Lake. I have a Rage on its way to me as well, so it will be interesting to compare with that. The Alness awaits the winner in late June!
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Post by tackle tart on Jun 9, 2016 21:43:33 GMT
I am going to get a Barrio 7/8 Switch line I think. I've heard nothing but good things. I recently bought a Barrio Switch 7/8 for my Vision Switch 7 wt rod and it is a delight to use as well as wonderful value @£38 delivered. The rod is rated for a 26 gram line so the Barrio 7/8 line at 27.5 gram (425 grains) seemed the right choice as opposed to their 6/7 model at 24.5 gram. So far I have only used it for casting practice early season when local river was well up and unfishable, so looking forward to putting it properly through its paces when conditions permit. Charles Jardine had a few chucks with my setup on the Taw when Pete hosted the get together back in April and he said it was fine which is good enough for me. Prior to deciding on the Barrio I did try an Orvis 7wt Switch line but it was too light for my taste as it didn't seem to load the rod like I expected. I also seriously considered the Rio Switch Chucker as I was determined to have an integrated running line and it had some great reviews, but @£75 I thought it was an expensive gamble once I found out about the terrific value Barrio. The recommended Vision Switch line was not on my radar as it is a shooting head. If anyone would like to meet up and try my line on their Switch rod then please just ask  |
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Post by billyfish on Jun 10, 2016 20:05:51 GMT
Bring it tomorrow and I would love to try it on my switch rods.
Colin.
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Post by tackle tart on Jun 10, 2016 22:20:43 GMT
Bring it tomorrow and I would love to try it on my switch rods. Colin. Got a lot on my plate right now so its going to be a real struggle for me to get over there tomorrow Colin. Lets arrange a river meet sometime soon. PS got smashed by a 2lb Seatrout on the Otter 2 weeks ago........have you connected with any at Tipton ? |
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Post by billyfish on Jun 11, 2016 7:19:53 GMT
Not really tried very hard . Did have a short session and had a good sea trout wallop. Also had a big swirl on a surface lure that came to nothing.
Colin.
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