royt
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Sept 26, 2022 23:02:03 GMT
Post by royt on Sept 26, 2022 23:02:03 GMT
I only managed that one visit to the Culm this season, downstream from Skinners farm. Very little rising but had 7 trout (including two 10ins, one 12ins and the 14 incher) on dry fly, plus 3 or 4 chub (not so small any more ! - all 9 or 10ins).
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Sept 27, 2022 12:19:59 GMT
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Post by halfstoned on Sept 27, 2022 12:19:59 GMT
Sounds like a good session for the Culm Roy, hopefully the numbers will be up from last season. Next year I must MAKE time to get up there.
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Oct 25, 2022 10:12:14 GMT
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Post by halfstoned on Oct 25, 2022 10:12:14 GMT
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Oct 26, 2022 18:30:33 GMT
Post by terry on Oct 26, 2022 18:30:33 GMT
The only hope of any improvement is when pollution gets in the way of a large housing development any where near a river as is now happening in parts of Wales. If there is anyway that action is taken it will be due to lack of profits and not the environment that seems to take worst than second place these days. Thanks for posting Chris.
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Post by paul on Nov 3, 2022 14:47:00 GMT
Given the frequency with which the quality of our water comes up on the forum, I attach a suggestion I have put into the Angling Trust and EA that might help in a small way.
"As countless press articles note, our rivers are even more polluted than of yore.
The EA plead that their failure to prosecute polluters- riverside farms and businesses- is because they can only afford much decreased water quality testing (which is essential to targeted use of the limited inspection effort and any subsequent prosecution).
Meanwhile, anglers are grumbling into their beards and b*tching on their forums but seem unable to do anything about it..
There may be a partial solution. The successful Volunteer Bailiff scheme, allied to the equally well developed river fly monitoring initiative suggests that the EA should invest in a training programme of volunteers in the water testing process. They would then commission them to conduct regular readings at specific river locations. If volunteers were willing, they might also be asked by the EA to be on call to attend the site of any reported incident- or a safe location downstream- to do additional tests that would assist the EA to establish the seriousness of the incident and thus their level of response.
I am assuming that the a sufficient number of water quality tests can be done simply onsite and do not require samples to be sent off.
If this idea is worth considering, a more detailed proposal would need to be prepared (perhaps with a bid for additional funding/ levy on the water companies) with the probability that the work may have to be done in pairs if there is the possibility it would be presented in court.
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Nov 3, 2022 19:48:05 GMT
Post by terry on Nov 3, 2022 19:48:05 GMT
Paul what a great idea and yes the most important ammunition against this on going plague is DATA DATA and more DATA. I will be fascinated to hear what the Angling Trust and the EA comments are. Please post any response you MAY get on the forum. I feel a revolution coming.
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Nov 4, 2022 8:16:25 GMT
Post by yeoman on Nov 4, 2022 8:16:25 GMT
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Nov 4, 2022 19:15:20 GMT
Post by treefella on Nov 4, 2022 19:15:20 GMT
I think the EA has enough data it needs, it knows the problems ,it knows the solutions ,it just does not do any thing with it. Following Ben's link i just spent the last 2 hours reading the EA's Catchment Data Explorer for our waters,learnt 2 abbreviations RHAG and RFD ,you will have read the data for the answer or wait untill tomorrow but the answer says it all.
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Nov 5, 2022 10:19:15 GMT
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Post by halfstoned on Nov 5, 2022 10:19:15 GMT
Is there a prize David? As you say pretty much says it all. ( Is it RNAG as opposed to RHAG or have I missed something)?
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Nov 5, 2022 16:06:33 GMT
Post by treefella on Nov 5, 2022 16:06:33 GMT
No prize Chris, and yes you are right typo error RNAG.For those of you who havent looked, RNAG =Reasons Not Achieving Good, RFD= Reasons For Deterioration. Its all there they know and in the preasant situation i dont think anything will be done,all we can hope for the best.
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Nov 5, 2022 21:30:13 GMT
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Post by halfstoned on Nov 5, 2022 21:30:13 GMT
Mr. Ness, everybody knows where the booze is. The problem isn't finding it, the problem is who wants to cross Capone.
The untouchables?? EA, Agriculture, Water Industry.......
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Post by yeoman on Nov 6, 2022 8:37:24 GMT
Buffer zones around fields and less sewage discharge, can't be that complicated to administer, can it? Wouldn't solve everything, but a good start?
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Nov 8, 2022 9:06:01 GMT
Post by paul on Nov 8, 2022 9:06:01 GMT
Ben's contact is interesting. I got the following reply from my Angkling tRust contact 'Thanks for your email. I assume you are aware of the Water Monitoring Quality work the AT is now doing: anglingtrust.net/get-involved/anglers-against-pollution/?utm_source=emailmarketing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wqmn_results_force_water_company_to_take_action&utm_content=2022-11-07#wqmn When the Water Quality Monitoring was first mooted within the AT we assumed and offered the help of the VBS – a network in place with some 600 or so people across the country – to pick up live issues as well as routine testing. The AT turned this down and have instead gone down the lines of recruiting other volunteers to do this work, but this does not involve VBS. I am not aware that there has been any coordination/joint working as per below, though that would have been eminently sensible!' Internal politics preventing s efficiency? Lots going on, volunteers rushing about all over the place but no coordinated use of their efforts or, as the conspiracy theorists amongst you might say, a good excuse for doing nothing. ( A bit unfair to most of the EA people I have met- frustrated by their own management systems.) Anyway, an opportunity to help if any of you wish. I have rattled Kris Kent's cage (he is the coordinatorr of the new EA volunteer group) who I have met in the past and he may be able to pull some threads together.
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Nov 8, 2022 9:35:29 GMT
Post by paul on Nov 8, 2022 9:35:29 GMT
And the reply from Kris Kent
Thank you for your email. At this stage we are working with angling clubs to recruit volunteers for the WQMN. This is because we need to be assured that volunteers have right of access to the sites they monitor and that they are covered by the appropriate public liability assurance, normally afforded by membership of a club or of the Angling Trust. There is also the matter of the cost of the monitoring kits, £113, which individual volunteers may feel unable to afford. We also need to involved angling clubs as it these angling clubs that will drive action to improve water quality on the back of the data the WQMN generates. Members of the VBS are more than welcome to work with their local clubs and to act as volunteers for the WQMN. I am very aware of the Westcountry Rivers Trust CSI Scheme. In fact, we have had very little interest in the WQMN from clubs in the Southwest because the WRT CSI scheme is so well established. But if clubs either aren’t. or don’t want to get, involved in the WRT CSI scheme we would happily welcome them to the WQMN. Please let me know if you need any more information or if I can be of any help promoting the WQMN to your local forum. Best wishes,
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