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Post by barnacle on Jun 5, 2023 23:32:52 GMT
Being new to the sport of fly fishing I wondered what peoples thoughts were on the best rod material for small rivers. I wondered if glass was a little slow on the strike/pick up against carbon, I have both and have to say I really like the feeling of glass for casting but think the action of carbon is a benefit when a fish takes the fly. At the end of the day I know its whatever your happiest using but was just after peoples preferences and why.
Cheers
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Post by Pete Tyjas on Jun 6, 2023 7:40:55 GMT
Fish whatever you like and whatever you enjoy. That is the most important thing. I fish graphite, glass and mainly bamboo and have not had any issues setting on fish. The softer rods have been much better for me for playing fish too.
You mention in another post that you had issues with too much slack line and this might well be the problem. Work on keeping the line in good control and every cast you make expect a take. That way you'll be ready. retrieve it as the fly drifts down the pool.
If you see a fish rising try not to fire off a shot straight away. Take a moment to compose yourself and think a little about where you want to land the fly, how you'll set if there are low trees and where you think a fish might try to head once it is hooked. By doing this it can help when everything plays out how you hope.
The only other thing I'd mention is work the bubble lines that are the conveyor belts of food and oxygen for the trout. I always used to say "foam is home"
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Post by barnacle on Jun 6, 2023 20:25:12 GMT
Fish whatever you like and whatever you enjoy. That is the most important thing. I fish graphite, glass and mainly bamboo and have not had any issues setting on fish. The softer rods have been much better for me for playing fish too. You mention in another post that you had issues with too much slack line and this might well be the problem. Work on keeping the line in good control and every cast you make expect a take. That way you'll be ready. retrieve it as the fly drifts down the pool. If you see a fish rising try not to fire off a shot straight away. Take a moment to compose yourself and think a little about where you want to land the fly, how you'll set if there are low trees and where you think a fish might try to head once it is hooked. By doing this it can help when everything plays out how you hope. The only other thing I'd mention is work the bubble lines that are the conveyor belts of food and oxygen for the trout. I always used to say "foam is home" There's a lot of good info there thank you. The slack line is the biggest area I want to work on. Seeing a rise then actually getting a take from it has been a great confidence boost as at least you know you have some parts of the equation right. I will get the hang of the line drag and understand completely that practice is the only way as there are quite a few variables to consider. River fly fishing has completely hooked me, the learning curve and then there's your surroundings. Its quite addictive
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Post by Pete Tyjas on Jun 7, 2023 9:01:44 GMT
The fish always tell you if you're doing something right or wrong!
The other thing to think about is drag which I think you touch on.
I work on the basis that every cast I make will have an element of drag in it and so make sure I am introducing slack into the line when the cast is going out or adding slack when the line is on the water. Have a look on YouTube for slack line casts or controlling drift, they'll be plenty out there.
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Post by boisker on Jun 7, 2023 17:24:26 GMT
The only thing I’d add that may help, is try getting as close as you feasibly can to the rise and don’t cast too far in front, perhaps 50cm, if you keep your drift short you’ll reduce how much slack line you have and hopefully increase your hook up rate…
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Post by barnacle on Jun 9, 2023 18:02:29 GMT
The only thing I’d add that may help, is try getting as close as you feasibly can to the rise and don’t cast too far in front, perhaps 50cm, if you keep your drift short you’ll reduce how much slack line you have and hopefully increase your hook up rate… I am trying to get as close as I can. It wasn’t long before I realised I needed to stud my wading boots lol I have also got hold of some knee pads to help lower my profile wherever possible. I really appreciate the help, thanks 👌
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Post by rubble on Jun 10, 2023 10:00:49 GMT
I have 3 of Vision's Cult Fibre series. The 5'9” is great on small streams and can throw a surprisingly long line using Vision's Cult 4 weight line.
The 8' is the do it all, can do small streams sometimes, depends on tree cover.
The 11'1" is a nymphing rod which I haven't devoted much time to. Mostly use it for dries on Dartmoor's free reservoirs bit can get weary using it like that as it's only a 4 weight again. Tried euronymphing i.e. just with a long tapered leader for a line but it's not something I mastered and I prefer the flexibility of a standard length which can quickly switch between dries and a nymph.
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