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May 29, 2015 10:38:00 GMT
Post by rubble on May 29, 2015 10:38:00 GMT
Had a pleasant session last night on the Yeo/Creedy junction. 14 in all, as many lost. Watch out for the teenage cows in the field now, the are quite inquisitive!
Kingfishers seen and also bats come dusk. Lots of fly life too. Black gnat working reasonably well.
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May 29, 2015 17:54:00 GMT
Post by halfstoned on May 29, 2015 17:54:00 GMT
Hi Rubble , I also fished the Yeo last night with a black gnat but could only manage 7 fish. Lots of spinners ( all males that i could see ) dancing but didn't see any fish rising to them. Do you ever see falls of spinners on the Yeo ? Was wondering if I left to early ? I don't know which species they were fairly large ( say size 14 hook ) reddish colour with two tails. Any thoughts?
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May 30, 2015 9:25:25 GMT
Post by JB on May 30, 2015 9:25:25 GMT
Hi Rubble , I also fished the Yeo last night with a black gnat but could only manage 7 fish. Lots of spinners ( all males that i could see ) dancing but didn't see any fish rising to them. Do you ever see falls of spinners on the Yeo ? Was wondering if I left to early ? I don't know which species they were fairly large ( say size 14 hook ) reddish colour with two tails. Any thoughts? Sounds like it could be sherry spinners, the last stage of the olive - which I think fall after dark and the females crawl under the surface to lay eggs, which makes it a tricky fall to fish.
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royt
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May 31, 2015 17:29:35 GMT
Post by royt on May 31, 2015 17:29:35 GMT
I'd recommend killing those in the future. They lend nothing to the river system ,competing with the wild fish, and lose condition very quickly, often getting so thin they die suffering. Not trying to knock your catch, or what you do with it, by the way, just making a suggestion. They're pretty tasty as well. I for one am rather glad that Rubble spared that 19-incher, because I suspect that its the same fish I caught in 2013 (see my post in '2013' Jun 8th) and my fish was definitely (from the characteristic spot pattern) the one caught again in 2014 by Mojo (see CFFC website - 'Latest News'). Although its hard to be sure because Rubble's photo shows the other flank, I think I recognise the damaged pectoral fin. If I am right, it didn't have the look of a stockie in 2013 and, whatever its origins, if it has survived for at least 2 years then maybe it has won its right to remain ! If nothing else it demonstrates the success of catch-and-release ! Admittedly, assuming it is the same fish, it seems to have lost some condition.
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May 31, 2015 17:59:31 GMT
Post by morendat on May 31, 2015 17:59:31 GMT
If this is the same fish I think it should be made the CFFC mascot for endurance/survival!! I have not heard of any fish being stocked into the Culm for the last 3 years. I talk to most of the land owners and the Culmstock club as far upstream as Hemyock.
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Jun 1, 2015 19:45:10 GMT
Post by rubble on Jun 1, 2015 19:45:10 GMT
I think they must have been. Saw plenty of them at about 8.30pm as you described. I have to say, I've yet to see a fish actually taking a large upwing off the surface of any kind. Makes me wonder why dries work sometimes!
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Jun 4, 2015 21:02:59 GMT
Post by halfstoned on Jun 4, 2015 21:02:59 GMT
Fished the Yeo tonight from 8 till dusk. Managed about 10 wbt but nothing over 9". Most fish took a deer hair sedge with a green butt. Some fish seemed to be smutting and after failing with my micro dries I tried the traditional approach of a wickhams fancy and caught three fish before it got too dark to see the fly.The rain doesn't seem to have made much difference, river still very low.
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Jun 5, 2015 9:35:36 GMT
Post by rubble on Jun 5, 2015 9:35:36 GMT
Similarly I tried upstream of Salmonhutch til dark. 9 fish in all, biggest 7". Fish quite quiet I thought. I also had luck with the same fly at the end, sometimes by skating it. Saw some sedge hatching but not much else. Bitten a bit by midges. Forecast looking nice
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Jun 11, 2015 21:01:56 GMT
Post by halfstoned on Jun 11, 2015 21:01:56 GMT
Fished the Yeo Sunday evening from 6 till 9. Started well with fish taking my Mayfly then went cold and quiet. Tried again Wednesday evening and could only catch two. Lots of midges in the meadows and the rises I saw were tiny sipping affairs which would indicate they were feeding on midges but once again my tiny midge copies failed. Perhaps the low water meant either I or my line was spooking them. Maybe the " flash floods " predicted for Wednesday will put some life back in the river. More likely I have to improve my technique!
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Jun 12, 2015 7:22:47 GMT
Post by Pete Tyjas on Jun 12, 2015 7:22:47 GMT
It's been a tricky week, the wind hasn't helped and at times I have been freezing.
Halfstoned how have you been fishing your midges on the surface, in the surface or both? I have been using a really simple pattern that sits in the surface and is tied shuttlecock style with a pearl butt, black ice dubbing and CDC has worked really for the sippers also quick and easy to tie.
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Jun 12, 2015 14:31:09 GMT
Post by rubble on Jun 12, 2015 14:31:09 GMT
Had a decent go on the golf course last Saturday am. Fished the duo with a rough looking grey duster thingy and a small olive nymph on the end. Both took fish.
Kept this tactic up on Monday evening below Dunscombe Bridge. Quiet to start but plenty of fish by the end.
Tried the top of the Creedy Thursday evening with the same set up. Note to self: while you may get away using an 8'0" rod and duo set up in March here, you won't in full summer! Wasted much time climbing trees after my gear but after ditching the nymph, good sport was to be had on the dry. Nothing bigger than 6" but plucky little fish nonetheless. Don't think it was this dry last year. Some rain now falling which might be useful.
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Jun 12, 2015 19:56:55 GMT
Post by halfstoned on Jun 12, 2015 19:56:55 GMT
Thanks for the advice Pete. I have tried griffiths gnat, f fly type black gnat, and M Weaver type midge size 20. Had some success with a small black and peacock spider fished on a dropper with dry fly on the point,but will give the shuttlecock a try, what size/type hook would you use? Is 7x copolymer ok or do you use flourocarbon? How long would you have the cdc ( so you can see it) with these smaller flies I find I end up just looking in the general direction of the fly and striking if I think a fish has taken it!
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Jun 13, 2015 7:30:07 GMT
Post by Pete Tyjas on Jun 13, 2015 7:30:07 GMT
Hi halfstoned, F Fly is another great pattern as it sits in the film too. We tie them with a trailing shuck and they can work really well.
When it comes to the shuttlecock I've played with varying lengths of CDC and it doesn't seem to matter too much but I am more likely to use shorter lengths of feather length in tricker conditions but think that might just be me.
Feather wise I have tied them in natural and lighter grey the latter seems to show up pretty well.
I tie on the Tiemco 103BL hook in sizes 19 and 21 and do have some other smaller hooks too but these seem to work just fine and I personally prefer them tied on a straight hook. I first started this way when tying grannom emergers that ascend vertically when hatching and have stuck with it rather than using a curved hook. If anything the hook up rate is slightly better too.
If I'm targeting "sippers" I'll use 7X (Rio Suppleflex) but use fluorocarbon very little for the simple reason that it isn't bio degradable. I'm getting green in my old age!
Spotting small flies can be a problem and if I want to fish just the one I'll use the shuttlecock that is relatively easy to spot or when it comes to aphids (there was a lot last year and I hate them!!) I'll look toward the end of my fly line and scan the water beyond there for the rise.
I have tried tying the smaller fly to the bend of the hook of a bigger indicator fly but have found turnover poor and not very worthwhile but tying a bigger fly on a 2inch dropper and the small fly on the point is better, not perfect, but better.
That having been said though, if it were a good fish and I knew it was I'd prefer the single fly.
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Jun 13, 2015 14:00:37 GMT
Post by halfstoned on Jun 13, 2015 14:00:37 GMT
Thanks for all the info Pete , very kind to take the time. Been using Rio powerflex , bought some suppleflex but found that with the sedge fly I was using it kept twisting the leader ( was a bit windy though). Anyway off to tying bench to have a go at some shuttlecocks. Will post any results after next outing!Thanks.
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Jun 14, 2015 6:56:19 GMT
Post by Pete Tyjas on Jun 14, 2015 6:56:19 GMT
halfstoned, no worries, hope they work for you!
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Jun 15, 2015 7:01:26 GMT
Post by paul on Jun 15, 2015 7:01:26 GMT
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Jun 15, 2015 7:01:56 GMT
Post by paul on Jun 15, 2015 7:01:56 GMT
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Jun 15, 2015 21:54:35 GMT
Post by halfstoned on Jun 15, 2015 21:54:35 GMT
Wow that is some hatch! Nothing much hatching on the yeo tonight. Some fish caught but a lot just splashing at the fly or falling off after brief contact, I think the water is so low and clear they could see the tippet( despite degreasing). Most fish landed as it got darker. Successful flies para tups, b and p spider, and wickhams. Pete looks like I need to buy some small hooks and decent cdc the parachute flies I tied up just sank! I take it you don't put gink on them? Saw some BWO spinners, sedges and midges.Fish rising just difficult to approach. Can't remember missing or losing so many fish (I blame a long day at work ) but still great fun.
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Jun 16, 2015 18:44:42 GMT
Post by Pete Tyjas on Jun 16, 2015 18:44:42 GMT
Paul, wow, would be a tricky hatch to fish!
halfstoned, no, I don't use gink. I prefer Tiemco Dry Fly Magic (not cheap but it goes a long way) as it works really well with CDC and then also keep it topped up with Frogs Fanny. When I have caught a fish I use kitchen roll to dry the CDC and then add Frogs Fanny again.
Personally speaking, when I fish CDC I spend time making sure the fly is sitting nice and high as it does make a difference compared to only a slightly dry fly.
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Jun 16, 2015 19:44:41 GMT
Post by boisker on Jun 16, 2015 19:44:41 GMT
I use tiemco dry as well, works really well with CDC, plus an amadou patch for drying
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